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Ethan Kross

Guest; professor, University of Michigan, director of the Emotion & Self-Control Laboratory; author *Chatter* (name given as \"Ethan Cross\" in transcript, corrected per his book's own spelling)

Award-winning psychology professor at the University of Michigan and director of its Emotion & Self-Control Laboratory. His 2021 book Chatter names and studies the negative internal monologue — rumination about the past, worry about the future — and the evidence-based tools (self-distancing, temporal distancing, environmental order, nature exposure, awe) that help manage it. Two-part guest walking through why chatter happens, its physical health costs, and how to break out of it.

Discussed in

  • Episode 61 — 61- The science of stress and 3 ways to beat it
  • Episode 62 — 62- Unexpected ways to overcome anxiety

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